How should we respond to wicked betrayal? In this episode of the Live Like It’s True podcast, we’re considering the part of Joseph’s story, when—20 years after his brothers betray him with such coldhearted dismissiveness, the tables turn and Joseph holds the power over his brothers. What does he do? What is the result? It’s an astonishing scene which exposes God’s sovereignty, the wicked choices of people—and how both can coexist in the same story of reconciliation.

Guest: Jodie Niznik

Bible Passage: Joseph Provides for His Brothers and Family – Genesis 45:1-8

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Music: Cade Popkin

Jodie Niznik

Jodie Niznik is a seminary-trained lover of God’s Word who has served in vocational ministry for
over twelve years. She helps people create space for God in their lives through her Scripture
meditation podcast and equips them to take another step with Jesus through her Real People,
Real Faith Bible studies and teaching. You can connect with her at

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Stunning Providence

Joseph is a stunning story of providence. In our conversation about Joseph’s response to his brothers, after the tables have turned and he’s now the one in power, Jodie said:

What’s surprising to me is that three times Joseph says to his brothers, “It wasn’t you, it was God.

God sent me here, God sent me here, God sent me here.”

That’s stunning to be able to get to that place where you can look at the worst circumstances that have happened to you, the worst pain that someone has tried to inflict upon you and recognize God has indeed used it for good.

God tells us he does this in Romans, chapter eight. He works all things for good. Joseph is living that out for us right now when he says God allowed it and, more than that. He says God sent him ahead.

It’s hard, when you’re in the middle of the pain, to imagine that God could ever use such pain for good. But when you doubt it’s possible, consider the story of Joseph. Turn it over in your mind. Think of what this story says about God, his sovereignty, and how he uses even the painful things to bring about his good and kind purposes. Purposes like people not starving. Purposes like God’s promises being kept. Purposes like brothers being reconciled, and families being restored.

Are you staring down a painful situation in your life? Have you been betrayed by someone? What would change in your life if you truly believed that God was sovereign and that he was working even this together for good in your life?

Episode Chapters

Recognizing Someone from Your Past
A Character Test for Joseph’s Brothers
Joseph Can’t Control His Emotions
Glimpses of Jesus in Joseph’s Story
Joseph saw God’s Sovereignty
The Power of Forgiveness and Reconciliation
Forgiveness is Like a Wrapped Gift
Redemption, Even when there’s Pain

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